Great work Aldhissla, wonderful research. I love all those old books from the 19th century, here's my contribution; Are Epidemics Contagious? (1887) by John Parkin https://archive.org/details/b2169056x/page/50/mode/2up
Great article. I always wondered what might have caused the Black Death and the Justinian Plague if we agree Germ Theory is wrong. and found out new scientific evidence showing it was actually caused by poisoning of the atmosphere by possible a comet braking up in the atmosphere. Greenland ice cores, tree rings as well as written accounts from the time seem to collaborate it. Here's a great book on the topic. https://web.archive.org/web/20230124193356/https://www.sott.net/article/145683-New-Light-on-the-Black-Death-The-Cosmic-Connection
Thanks Usul. Here is an excellent documentary about the Justinian Plague featuring the author of the book you mentioned - Mike Baillie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUz5Vjq9-s
Also I suggest reading chapter 3 of this book published in 1846. According to physician Justus Hecker, the Black Death "was a consequence of violent commotions in the earth's organism."
Indeed, good question. I haven't figured that on out yet.
According to Daniel Defoe's "Journal of the Plague Year" the officials would come and make an examination to determine if people had died of the plague in London. Apparently, there was some criteria for making the determination, but he doesn't state what the criteria was. However, there were many cases of death from "spotted fever" during the same year and the people suspected that the officials were minimizing the number of victims from "plague" to keep the people from getting alarmed (the opposite of what we get today).
This suggests that "plague" in London in 1665 was close enough to spotted fever for there to be some confusion; or, more likely, that there was no distinct disease entity but rather a common cause, since the number of deaths from both affections were high.
On the other hand Defoe reports that there were many quacks peddling doomsday fears and cures, often containing mercury or arsenic, and that people died from these "cures". This could explain a lot of the spotted fever deaths if indeed it was a different thing than the plague.
The link to Dr. Thompson's 1906 article is a Jstor link and I am unable to view the full article or to find it elsewhere.
From what I can gather, Thompson followed the belief that plague is transmitted to humans via the rat-flea vector route, although this doesn't make a lot of sense to me given what Sam Bailey's video on Plague says about the Thompson's study in Sidney, Australia, following some 300 plague victims and not finding any transmission within households.
Do you have access to Thompson's "On the Epidemiology of Plague" in full and is it something you could pass on to me?
You don't have to ponder what caused "the plague". It was a vaccinal disease, caused by inoculations. They were inoculating for smallpox as far back as 1500 BC. There's nothing new under the sun. I can cite sources for the long history of vaccination, most of which are provax, but also Eleanor McBean's The Poisoned Needle
Can you cite an sources for smallpox inoculation prior to Jenner's vaccination? I'm interested to know how prevalent it was.
As I understand, inoculation was imported from Arabic countries and was only available to wealthy families.
Though I don't discount the deleterious effects of inoculation/vaccination, the spread of plague doesn't make sense from an inoculation standpoint. It makes more sense to me as the result of terrestrial and cosmic upheavals or even invisible influences like electromagnetic events.
Great work Aldhissla, wonderful research. I love all those old books from the 19th century, here's my contribution; Are Epidemics Contagious? (1887) by John Parkin https://archive.org/details/b2169056x/page/50/mode/2up
Turn to page 51 for The Plague.
I added some of the information found in that document to the article.
Thank you! Great information.
Great article. I always wondered what might have caused the Black Death and the Justinian Plague if we agree Germ Theory is wrong. and found out new scientific evidence showing it was actually caused by poisoning of the atmosphere by possible a comet braking up in the atmosphere. Greenland ice cores, tree rings as well as written accounts from the time seem to collaborate it. Here's a great book on the topic. https://web.archive.org/web/20230124193356/https://www.sott.net/article/145683-New-Light-on-the-Black-Death-The-Cosmic-Connection
Thanks Usul. Here is an excellent documentary about the Justinian Plague featuring the author of the book you mentioned - Mike Baillie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUz5Vjq9-s
Unfortunatly he passed away last year.
Here is a presentation of his work: https://www.youtube.com/live/47OkP_wOmvg
Also I suggest reading chapter 3 of this book published in 1846. According to physician Justus Hecker, the Black Death "was a consequence of violent commotions in the earth's organism."
https://archive.org/details/epidemicsofmiddl00unse/page/10/mode/2up
Thank you! Looking forward to checking the links out.
Coming late to this discussion. Please consider adding to your awareness:
The predicted plague: value of the prediction, planetary, and atmospheric influences considered as causes of black death and other plagues (1900)
https://ia601500.us.archive.org/27/items/b29011395/b29011395.pdf
Chapter on atmospheric origin starts on p. 148
Excellent report.
Also begs the question, "What was this thing they called "The Plague."
A result of natural disasters.
Read chapter 3 and you will understand why: https://archive.org/details/epidemicsofmiddl00unse/page/10/mode/2up
I would be interested to know how such events impacted soil degradation and created food shortages.
They did indeed.
Check out Sasha Dobler's Black Death and Abrupt Earth Changes
https://abruptearthchanges.com/2017/05/25/1619/
Read the sections on famines and also on the Magdalene floods preceding the Black Plague
Indeed, good question. I haven't figured that on out yet.
According to Daniel Defoe's "Journal of the Plague Year" the officials would come and make an examination to determine if people had died of the plague in London. Apparently, there was some criteria for making the determination, but he doesn't state what the criteria was. However, there were many cases of death from "spotted fever" during the same year and the people suspected that the officials were minimizing the number of victims from "plague" to keep the people from getting alarmed (the opposite of what we get today).
This suggests that "plague" in London in 1665 was close enough to spotted fever for there to be some confusion; or, more likely, that there was no distinct disease entity but rather a common cause, since the number of deaths from both affections were high.
On the other hand Defoe reports that there were many quacks peddling doomsday fears and cures, often containing mercury or arsenic, and that people died from these "cures". This could explain a lot of the spotted fever deaths if indeed it was a different thing than the plague.
I've just completed a 2-part series on the Justinian Plague and the Black Death, respectively:
https://totheroot.substack.com/p/comets-volcanoes-earthquakes-and?r=1cz07o
https://totheroot.substack.com/p/comets-volcanoes-earthquakes-and-8ff?r=1cz07o
Good job!!
Awesome work my friend. Thank you <3
Thanks :)
I’ll have to look up some more of Clot Bey. Thank you.
It’s nice to find more figures in history that aren’t preaching the established contagion narrative.
Thanks for this excellent essay.
The link to Dr. Thompson's 1906 article is a Jstor link and I am unable to view the full article or to find it elsewhere.
From what I can gather, Thompson followed the belief that plague is transmitted to humans via the rat-flea vector route, although this doesn't make a lot of sense to me given what Sam Bailey's video on Plague says about the Thompson's study in Sidney, Australia, following some 300 plague victims and not finding any transmission within households.
Do you have access to Thompson's "On the Epidemiology of Plague" in full and is it something you could pass on to me?
Thanks.
Here is the article: https://sci-hub.ru/https://www.jstor.org/stable/3858800
Cool, thanks!
Great job, wow, thank you!
:)
You don't have to ponder what caused "the plague". It was a vaccinal disease, caused by inoculations. They were inoculating for smallpox as far back as 1500 BC. There's nothing new under the sun. I can cite sources for the long history of vaccination, most of which are provax, but also Eleanor McBean's The Poisoned Needle
Can you cite an sources for smallpox inoculation prior to Jenner's vaccination? I'm interested to know how prevalent it was.
As I understand, inoculation was imported from Arabic countries and was only available to wealthy families.
Though I don't discount the deleterious effects of inoculation/vaccination, the spread of plague doesn't make sense from an inoculation standpoint. It makes more sense to me as the result of terrestrial and cosmic upheavals or even invisible influences like electromagnetic events.
Check out:
J.F.C. Hecker's work on the Black Death
Sasha Dobler
https://abruptearthchanges.com/2017/05/25/1619/
John Parkin
"Are Epidemics Contagious?"
"On the Volcanic Origin of Epidemics"
Mike Bailley, dendrochronologist, several books